Life Beyond The Numbers
Are you curious about having a more fulfilling work-life? Do you believe in putting people first and in purpose; not profit at any cost? If so, this podcast is for you. We place a lens on the human side of work-life.
Episodes

Saturday Nov 12, 2022
#108 The Answers Are Inside - Robyn Harris
Saturday Nov 12, 2022
Saturday Nov 12, 2022
"You can't find the answers out there. The answers aren't out there. The answers are inside. And until you look inside and find your own answers, answers that you have from outside won't work." Robyn Harris
Robyn Harris explains that our bodies don't make mistakes. We explore a more conscious approach to wellbeing, the language we use when speaking about illness, the body's ability to heal and the learning we are offered when we are sick. Robyn shares how she learnt to take to back her power after giving it away and abdicating her responsibility and ability to make her own choices. She found what made her heart sing with the help of nature and Wonder, Intuition, Love and Dance (W-I-L-D). We also talk about meta consciousness, shame and guilt and the magic of finding our answers inside.
Robyn Harris has been described as a Wellbeing Alchemist who brings a new and transformative perspective, which invites and enables people to step into a whole new way of being that feels liberating and helps to shift their wellbeing to a new level. She finds joy in supporting passionate, deeply caring people to start falling in love with Who They Really Are, enabling them to rediscover their sense of clarity, energy and fun – without getting swamped by overwhelm or feeling like it has to be hard work.
Connect with Robyn
On LinkedIn, Instagram and YouTube
Through her website - Equenergy
Her Wild Wisdom Wellbeing Facebook page
Resources Mentioned
Episode 56, Gut Health with Caroline Peyton
Depak Chopra
Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker
Gabor Mate, Brene Brown, Bessel VanDerKolk, Abraham Hicks, Neil Donald Walsh, Andrew Cohen, Wayne Dyer, Bruce Lipton

Saturday Nov 05, 2022
#107 Be in the Room - Ellen Leith
Saturday Nov 05, 2022
Saturday Nov 05, 2022
"You have to be in the room. You've got to be a part of the conversation." "If you're not talking to each other and you're not in the room where it's happening then you are a step behind others who are thinking differently." Ellen Leith
Ellen Leith loves to connect people has also been interested in areas of business, or life, that is fundamental to people. And a key facet for all of us throughout our lives, Ellen says, is the aspect of paying for something or being paid for something. This led her to launch the Purchase to Pay Network in 2008 and today this network includes over 15,000 key decision makers across a variety of different industries. We talk about knowledge-sharing and learning. Ellen explains that every time she puts on an event she wants people to feel (1) that it has been a valuable use of their time, and (2) that they have learned something new. We also chat about technology and tech humanism, curiosity, collaboration, celebrating success and lost more.
Ellen Leith is passionate about people, processes that work and technology that does what it says it will. She brings together leaders across Finance, P2P, AP and Procurement to elevate careers, share knowledge and facilitate learning. Ellen is the founder of the Purchase to Pay Network that gives best practice advice, offers benchmarking results, conducts market research, industry news, white papers, jobs, the annual P2P Summit, roundtable events and webinars. PPN also offers its sponsors a chance to connect with new channels and enjoy being a part of a real P2P community.
Connect with Ellen
On LinkedIn
On Twitter
Through the P2P Network website or LinkedIn group
Resources Mentioned
P2P Focus Week
PPN Annual Awards
P2P Annual Summit will be held on June 6th 2023

Saturday Oct 29, 2022
#106 Time to Rest with Previous Guests
Saturday Oct 29, 2022
Saturday Oct 29, 2022
"I think you can only build that inner resilience if you do actually accept that we do all need rest and recovery, not just the annual long holiday, but actually building that into everyday life." Sue Rosen
The last weekend in October is the weekend the clocks change and here in the UK that signals winter is on the way. This made me think about hibernating. But also the importance of rest, pausing, stopping and taking breaks and holidays. So, I've put together a compilation of snippets from earlier episodes, outlined below, on this very topic.
Episode 12 with Javed Bobat
Episode 30 with Lisa LLoyd
Episode 1 with Sue Rosen
Episode 50 with Kiki Kirby
Episode 35 with Tony Pound
Episode 29 with Andy Lonnen
Episode 61 with Lisa LLoyd
Connect with Previous Guests
You can connect with all of these guests, and me, on LinkedIn
Resources Mentioned
James Clear 3-2-1 Newsletter
Beant K Dhillon on Twitter

Saturday Oct 22, 2022
#105 Create the Content You Want to See in the World
Saturday Oct 22, 2022
Saturday Oct 22, 2022
In this solo episode I talk about creating the content we want to see in the world.
This was inspired by the International Women's Podcast Awards 2022. And by my recent commitment to writing a book.
Connect with me:
On LinkedIn
On Instagram
On Twitter
Resources Mentioned:
Episode 87 and Episode 60 of Life Beyond the Numbers
International Women's Podcast Awards
Alison Jones and Practical Inspiration Publishing
How Emotions are Made by Lisa Feldman Barrett
The Answer to How is Yes by Peter Block
Consolations by David Whyte
Episode 10 and Episode 47 of Life Beyond the Numbers with Steve Haines

Saturday Oct 15, 2022
#104 Your Intention - Katie McLaughlin
Saturday Oct 15, 2022
Saturday Oct 15, 2022
"Your intention has a huge impact .... the impact of what you say or do may not match up with your intention. And so that's where we have to, as leaders, continue to be emphasising that intention through our words, through our actions..."
Katie McLaughlin speaks to me about how she uses her background in theatre to facilitate transformation at work. Katie says we need more artists in the world of business as there's less of a science to business and more of an art. We talk about how your intention matters and to be wary of the unintended impact of your intentions. We talk about vision, values, connection, meaning and the skill sets we need to better communicate, collaborate and understand each other. We also cover unfulfilled potential in our workplaces, workplace hurt and the value of felt lived experience.
Katie McLaughlin is on a mission to stop workplace hurt. She is passionate about creating a better world through happier workplaces and teams. She created her McLaughlin Method to put an end to boring, theory-based training and move past theories of leadership to step into common situations to develop tangible skills and change behaviours. Theatre is her passion and her secret sauce to transforming your current understanding of the people you lead.
Connect with Katie:
On LinkedIn
Through her website

Saturday Oct 08, 2022
#103 Just Go For It - Natasha Tomlinson
Saturday Oct 08, 2022
Saturday Oct 08, 2022
"....it was really, really difficult to walk away from a very solid career. And I think I wanted from the life coach validation, just someone to say, go for it, you're not being stupid, you're not being crazy, just go for it." Natasha Tomlinson
Natasha Tomlinson stepped away from a 20 year career in accounting to pursue her passion. Tasha studied psychology in university and when offered a job in accounting she took it. She got to the point where in her heart of hearts she knew she wanted to go back into psychology. We talk about how Tasha made that happen. And we talk about the business she co-founded to improve resilience and social skills of students some of whom are disengaged with education, display challenging behaviour, experience distress due to mental health/medical conditions and have significant attachment and/or trauma needs.
Natasha Tomlinson has a degree and Master’s in Psychology and is a psychotherapist. She has worked in mental health for many years, in the charity sector, in a corporate setting and as a mentor, counsellor, fitness & wellbeing instructor. Her passion is health and wellbeing. She is trained in mindfulness and it’s a technique she uses every day. Together with Luke, she runs Life Skills Hub. She leads the KIDS partnership project working with young people with autism and anxiety/depression and also takes care of the finance director and company secretary roles within the business.
Connect with Tasha
On LinkedIn
Through Life Skills Hub
Resources Mentioned
Young Minds
National Autistic Society (UK)
Episode 84, Sibling Special, Life Beyond the Numbers

Saturday Oct 01, 2022
#102 Human Nature - David Lee
Saturday Oct 01, 2022
Saturday Oct 01, 2022
"...the more you understand human nature, the more you bring out the best in people." David Lee
David Lee and I talk about our workplaces today are unhuman friendly and that they are largely transactional as opposed to relational. We talk about understanding human nature at work. And David explains 'downshifting', the 'reptilian brain' concept as well as polyvagl theory or, as he calls it, 'cool, calm and connected.' We also talk about how we as humans make meaning and that sometimes we make up meaning. David and I packed lots into this conversation and become animated at times.
David Lee is a coach, consultant, workshop facilitator, keynote speaker, and author, who loves creating a win/win/win relationship between people and the organizations they work for. He helps leaders and leadership teams learn how to become "people whisperers", and by doing so, increase their ability to make their organization THE choice for "A List Talent" and inspire the best in their people.
Connect with David
On LinkedIn
Through his website Human Nature at Work
Resources Mentioned
Peter Senge and The 5th Discipline
Neuroscientist Dr. Paul Maclean
Polyvagl Theory Dr. Stephen Porges and Deb Dana
Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goleman
Permission to Feel by Professor Marc Brackett
David Whyte

Tuesday Aug 16, 2022
#101 Looking Forward - Susan Ní Chríodáin
Tuesday Aug 16, 2022
Tuesday Aug 16, 2022
"We are all people. We are all different and unique. We think differently, work differently, process differently, but we are all human. If we work off the premise of people are just people first and foremost, and different from me is okay, can we actually make the world a better place?" Susan Ní Chríodáin
Life Beyond the Numbers is on a break and will be back in early October 2022 with episode 102.
Part 3 of the trilogy is future focused. I talk about what my purpose in life is, at present, and how that is informing my future direction. I have help from some previous episodes and books (all listed in the resources section). I talk about numbers and people. I talk about the tragedy of workplace engagement numbers being so low. And I talk about some ways to open up the discussion about this to improve how people are treated, how they perform and ultimately how the world can be a better place.
Susan Ní Chríodáin focuses on the people side of work-life and understands the numbers side too. She knows that feelings impact the bottom line, and that the bottom line is that feelings matter at work. Engagement, dignity and belonging are all feelings and they all impact people’s performance and ultimately the results of an organisation. She hosts this podcast for people who are curious about how to have a more fulfilling work-life.
Connect with Susan
On LinkedIn
Through Beyond the Numbers
Resources Mentioned
Episode 42 Metamorphosis with John Shinnick
Episode 7 Connecting & Communication with Clay Moffat
Episode 26 Guinness & Tea with John Collins
Episode 32 Serial Entrepreneur with Kevin Ashley
Episode 39 HEART with Glin Bayley
Episode 13 Never Think You're Reaching Too High with Margaret de Valois
Coaches Rising and Nicholas Janni
Beyond Measure by Margaret Heffernan
The Human Side of Enterprise by Douglas McGregor
Courage by David Whyte (from Consolations)

Tuesday Aug 09, 2022
#100 My Present Journey - Susan Ní Chríodáin
Tuesday Aug 09, 2022
Tuesday Aug 09, 2022
"I'm becoming the person I'm becoming. I'm following my inner, personal route." Susan Ní Chríodáin
Welcome to episode 100. This is the second in the trilogy of past, present and future. In this episode I talk about my the present and where I am in my journey as well as some of the paths I am exploring.
Is there a line you remember from a poem or short story in school that still fascinates you to this day? I talk about one I remember.
Do you ever wish you had more space to be and not just do? I talk about making space and about white space, liminal spaces, wide-open spaces and more.
And of course I do all of this with some help from some writers, poets and previous episodes.
Susan Ní Chríodáin is the host of Life Beyond the Numbers. She is an Irish woman living abroad. She spent the first part of her career working in accounting and finance, the second part in general organisational management, leadership and development. She now works with leaders and teams who are making conscious efforts to improve work-lives, engage their people and make their working environment and culture more human-centric.
Connect with Susan:
On LinkedIn
Or check out her website Beyond the Numbers
Resources Mentioned:
"Oh, the places you'll go" by Dr. Seuss
Consolations by David Whyte
The Fly in the Ointment by V.S. Pritchett
Episode 28, Breakthrough with Gib Bulloch. Gib is also the founder of Craigberoch.
Episode 52, Everything's Okay with Alan Creedon

Tuesday Aug 02, 2022
#99 Looking Back - Susan Ní Chríodáin
Tuesday Aug 02, 2022
Tuesday Aug 02, 2022
"And we're all human. And I think that's the main message that I try to bring out in this podcast - it's human stories for human listeners. We are all people. We are all doing our best. And it's wonderful to know that others have been where we are or think like we do or are going where we want to go or can show us things we didn't know." Susan Ní Chríodáin
To celebrate getting to 100 episodes I opted to do a trilogy for episode 99, 100 and 101. In episode 99 I take a look back over the last two years and with the help of some listener quotes, guest quotes and episode excerpts I talk about what matters most about this podcast. And that is people: guests, listeners and me. And for all of us it is about stepping into the unknown, practice, practice, practice and solace in knowing we are not alone.
Susan Ní Chríodáin is the host of Life Beyond the Numbers. Life Beyond the Numbers is for people who are curious about how to have a more fulfilling work-life. The first episodes aired in Sept 2020 and Susan has had over 80 recorded conversations with 43 women and 39 men. To date this podcast has been downloaded in 80 countries.
Connect with Susan
On LinkedIn
Through her website
Resources Mentioned
Episode 1 Stepping Into the Unknown with Sue Rosen
Episode 44 Preparation and Practice with Carlos Gimeno
Episode 84 Sibling Special
Episode 49 A Sense of Belong with Jenny Ashmore
Episode 12 Building Communities with Javed Bobat
Episode 66 Lift the Lid with Amantha King
Episode 50 A Journey with Kiki Kirby
Episode 54 You're Not Alone with Louise McMilan
Episode 68 Extreme Experiences with Anna Haslock
Episode 71 Your True Self with Jonathan de Potter

Life Beyond the Numbers
Are you curious about having a more fulfilling work-life? Do you believe in putting people first and in purpose; not just profit at any cost?
If so, this podcast is for you.
We place a lens on the human side of work-life. We look at life beyond the numbers and at the uniqueness of people. All guests believe in putting people first and inspiring you to let your uniqueness shine through in your work-life.
80% of people report feeling disengaged at work. Are you included in this 80% or are you part of the 20% who is engaged in the workplace?
Host Susan Ní Chríodáin founded Beyond the Numbers to work with teams and individuals in organisations who know that putting people first generates the greatest return. Her experience and business acumen stem from a wide variety of commercial and non-profit roles. For over 20 years she led and managed multi-disciplinary and multi-cultural teams in Europe, Africa, Asia, in-person and remotely.