Life Beyond The Numbers
Are you curious about having a more fulfilling work-life? Do you believe in putting people first and in purpose; not profit at any cost? If so, this podcast is for you. We place a lens on the human side of work-life.
Episodes

Tuesday Oct 27, 2020
#14 The MAGIC Formula - John Hayns
Tuesday Oct 27, 2020
Tuesday Oct 27, 2020
"How can I create a checklist on being kind? How can I ask in each situation I find myself in, how can I be magic in this situation?" "How can I apply the magic formula? How can I be magic in this situation?" John Hayns.
John and I talk about how important influencing skills are as a magician and in life. He explains his philosophy of kindness as a choice. Magic, for example, is not about trying to put one over on people, but about lifting people up and trying to make their lives better. It is all done by kindness and that transforms into business. We talk through his MAGIC formula - how to be kind by MAGIC. We also chat about personality types, Sufi Mystics, taking yourself on a date, baked beans and practical insights for creating work-life magic.
John Hayns is a Speaker, Writer and Entertainer. Having graduated with a Masters from Oxford University in the early ’90s, John sold web and database solutions to the legal and insurance sectors of the City of London. He is now Managing Director of two companies and the Chair of a leading trade association. He is also Chair of The Magic Circle, the premier magic society in the world, and an acknowledged expert in the fields of persuasion and direction of attention.
Connect with John:
https://www.work-life-magic.com/
Resources:
https://themagiccircle.co.uk/
The Artist's Way, Julie Cameron
To Sell is Human, Dan Pink
https://michaelhyatt.com/
https://miraclemorning.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/TMM-Journal-Sample.pdf
https://thisismyera.com/products/thisismyera-planner?variant=45373602568

Tuesday Oct 20, 2020
#13 Never Think You’re Reaching Too High - Margaret de Valois
Tuesday Oct 20, 2020
Tuesday Oct 20, 2020
"As you go through your career you learn what you're good at. And one of the things I've been very lucky to have been able to do is to choose the things that I'm good at and leave behind the things that I'm not so good at and have the confidence to say, do you know what actually that's not really my bag". Margaret de Valois.
Mags and I talk about how sometimes we don't make choices in life but just do what's put in front of us. But how much more rewarding it is to make active choices and really consider what it is that you want to do not what is easy to do. We talk about how she felt as if she was in "a controlling relationship with the City" and her relocation to Cornwall. We also talk about her love of communication, music and pensions.
Margaret de Valois is an award-winning seasoned City professional now living in Cornwall. She qualified as an Actuary and works as a Business Coach who helps businesses generate great ideas and plan practical strategies to guarantee business growth. And she is a co-host of the TV show Thinking Women.
Connect with Margaret:
https://margaretdevalois.com/
https://www.facebook.com/thinkingwomentv/
Resources:
https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension

Tuesday Oct 13, 2020
#12 Building Communities - Javed Bobat
Tuesday Oct 13, 2020
Tuesday Oct 13, 2020
"Everyone seems to have some negativity, some frustration, some disappointment, even at times, anger towards recruiters. And when you repeatedly hear that, pretty much every conversation, you have to take a step back, which I did a few years ago..." "And that's where I've made the decision over the last 12, 18 months to research plan and then bring to market something that I hope will bring some humanity back within an industry where I feel it is lacking". Javed Bobat.
Javed and I discuss his three-part ethical recruitment model for finance and accounting professionals that benefits the candidate, team and business with a focus on employee well-being, engagement and retention. Javed is also a Mental Health First Aid (MHFA) Instructor and he talks about his own mental health. We discuss the recent Pulse Report he produced on the impact of remote working and the stress of lockdown and how extremely relatable people felt it was. And we chat about 'Written For You, By You' - encouraging finance and accounting professionals to write about their work-life.
Javed Bobat is based in Leeds and has spent his career in finance/accounting recruitment. He launched Fide Careers late last year. He is on a mission to prioritise people over profit and Fide is purpose-driven and socially motivated as they take a percentage of every single recruitment fee and reinvest it directly back into the team, candidate and business they recruit for. He has also set up a community interest company F=@#! Mental Health for mental health and well-being of the industry.
Connect with Javed:
https://fide.careers/
https://fmentalhealth.org/
LinkedIn: Javed Bobat
Twitter & Instagram: @fidecareers

Tuesday Oct 06, 2020
#11 Simplify, Measure & Strengthen - Sarah Whale
Tuesday Oct 06, 2020
Tuesday Oct 06, 2020
"...whether it's your job, your business, your relationships, your personal finances....the decisions you make right now - what's the impact on people, planet and economy? And that's effectively what sustainability is." Sarah Whale.
Sarah Whale founder of Profit Impact, and voice of reason, talks about sustainability in plain English. She shines a light on 5 Pillars for an organisation: Finance & Governance, Communities, Environment, Employees and Customers. She talks about 'Sarah's Sustainability Snapshot' and why her mantra is 'Simplify, Measure & Strengthen'. We also discuss B Corp and UN Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs).
Sarah Whale is an experienced finance leader within SME businesses. Her path has not followed a traditional finance career and she has a broad range of experiences across sectors and sizes. She has supported both thriving and struggling businesses but a common thread has been decision making based on short-term financial objectives. She established Profit Impact with a clear mission - to support SMEs to strengthen their business' financial position through sustainability.
Connect with Sarah:
https://www.profit-impact.co.uk/
LinkedIn: Sarah Whale
Twitter: @profit_impact and Instagram: @profitimpact
Resources:
https://bcorporation.net/
https://sdgs.un.org/goals

Tuesday Sep 29, 2020
#10 This Feeling Business - Steve Haines
Tuesday Sep 29, 2020
Tuesday Sep 29, 2020
“Feelings aren't a beacon of eternal truth. They're a negotiation. They're always real because they are a perception inside of you, but it doesn't mean that they are accurate, useful, or true they're things that need to be negotiated. We can reframe them and construct them differently.” Steve Haines
Steve Haines takes us in-depth on the transformative power of learning to connect with our bodies with the use of some great metaphors. He explains that the biggest decision we're making in a moment is “Am I safe or not?” Steve explains that everybody gets triggered but we can learn how to reframe our feelings. We discuss how of the biggest predictors to a happy and healthy life is movement and the good news is “the best exercise, is exercise you're going to do”.
Steve Haines has been a bodyworker for over 20 years, runs regular clinics in London and Geneva and teaches all over the world. He is the author of the award winning ‘Anxiety Is Really Strange’, part of a series of graphic books that include ‘Pain Is Really Strange’ and ‘Trauma Is Really Strange’. Understanding the science of pain and trauma has transformed his approach to healing. He has studied Yoga, Shiatsu, Craniosacral Therapy, and Trauma Releasing Exercises TRE®.
Connect with Steve:https://bodycollege.net/ +
https://www.facebook.com/bodycollege/ +
Twitter @stevehaines66

Tuesday Sep 22, 2020
#9 More Than the Scorer - Jerry Harris
Tuesday Sep 22, 2020
Tuesday Sep 22, 2020
“I think that phrase is probably the tipping point where I was saying to myself, ok, I am not going to just keep the score I'm gonna make the numbers happen.” Jerry Harris
Jerry began his career with KPMG and tells us about various roles as an FD, a FD-COO hybrid, a commercial director and as a Non-Exec. He explains the importance of the human touch in recruitment and managing first impressions when you are interviewing. He shares his thoughts on three types of finance people and how accounting is a fantastic way to formulate a career. He also introduces me to the phrase 'appropriate selfishness'.
Jerry Harris is an experienced professional service business leader and adviser. He is currently working as a Non-Exec Director at various professional service and other types of businesses.
Connect with Jerry:LinkedIn @ Jerry Harris

Tuesday Sep 15, 2020
#8 Mentorship - Andrew Codd
Tuesday Sep 15, 2020
Tuesday Sep 15, 2020
“We put a lot of pressure ourselves to always be right and feel like we need to know the answer. And actually sometimes it's okay not to know the answer. And I think that's a sign of strength as well as to put your hand up say “I don't know” but I I'll go find out or I'll ask someone to help; that’s strength.” Andrew Codd.
Andrew tells us of an amazing gift he received early in his career and how his mission is to share it with others. One of the motivators to starting the podcast #SITN Show, that now has an audience in 160 countries, is that he didn't have all the answers but he knew people who probably did and says how easy it is to ask for help on behalf of other people. Andrew’s love of asking questions comes across as he keeps me on my toes when it comes to discussing work-life balance, but he concludes that there's ‘no such thing as a lack of resource just a lack of resourcefulness and you only spot that when you're out of balance’. If you are looking for a mentor know what you're looking for to some degree and think of up to 3 things someone can help you with. And if someone asks you to be a mentor to them remember that mentoring really helps you as well as the other person.
Andrew Codd is an Accountant, author and commercial finance entrepreneur. He is the host of #SITN podcast. Each week he speaks with leaders in finance and business, and deconstructs with them their real stories, insights & hard won lessons, not found in any textbooks, into practical advice on the key strengths and qualities needed as well as steps listeners can take to elevate the impact they make and to have a fun, successful & rewarding career in accounting & finance.
Connect with Andrew:LinkedIn @ Andrew Codd + #SITN Show https://sitnshow.com/
Resources:
Think and Grow Rich - Napoleon Hill
How to have a good day - Caroline Webb
Peter Drucker / Harvard Business Review
#Strength in the Numbers Show (#SITN Show) https://sitnshow.com/

Tuesday Sep 08, 2020
#7 Connecting & Communicating - Clay Moffatt
Tuesday Sep 08, 2020
Tuesday Sep 08, 2020
“Every human needs to have some form of connection, a deep connection with someone, whether that's your family, whether that's friends, we all need that kind of connection”. Clay Moffat.
Clay tells us about being a delinquent in school and his early career. And then an incident cost him a promotion and got him kicked out of his division. He began to reflect on what he contributed to that situation, and others, and there was only one common denominator. He went on to explore different methodologies on how to communicate with people but hypnosis taught him how to connect with people. We talk about connecting with people, and how asking for help makes you human and is the fastest way to get growth when you connect with the right person.
Clay Moffat is a performance hacker, a mental conditioning specialist, a mind freak, professional tearjerker and full time joker. He has a proven track record when it comes to removing anxiety, imposter syndrome, and self-sabotage, resulting in clients becoming centred, clear and confident. Clay works with Founder's, Millionaires, Pro Athletes, Nurse’s and anyone that’s a fit for his criteria and methods.
Connect with Clay:
LinkedIn: Clay Moffat + https://claymoffat.com/ + Instagram: @clay.moffat
Resources:
Matthew McConaughey future self strategy
https://www.fastcompany.com/90519396/the-science-backed-future-self-strategy-can-pave-the-way-to-greater-success

Tuesday Sep 01, 2020
#6 Learning How to Manage - Helen Joy
Tuesday Sep 01, 2020
Tuesday Sep 01, 2020
“Give your people, the opportunity to do what they're best at, do it to the best of their abilities and the responsibility to get on and direct. And the trust to make that happen. They will bring you so much back.” Helen Joy.
Helen tells us about how in her first management role she was awful as she was afraid of being seen to be weak so she changed into this person she thought she should and for six years she was deeply unhappy in that role because it clashed with her values. When she was given the freedom, autonomy and responsibility she knew that was her chance to do it right and be the person that she was inside. One of her bug bears is promoting people for their technical ability with absolutely no concern, focus or support given around the people side because it is setting people up for failure. She reveals the #1 topic she gets asked about when delivering training to aspiring new managers. And we talk about how the workplace is changing and how understanding yourself can make you a great leader.
Helen Joy’s passion is Leadership and Management Development, particularly aspiring and new managers. She led and developed teams within operational and support environments to achieve results through coaching and formal training.
Connect with Helen:LinkedIn @ Helen Joy + https://people-spark.co.uk/
Resources:
The Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick Lencioni
The Chimp Paradox: The Mind Management Programme for Confidence, Success and Happiness by Prof Steve Peters
The Book of Leadership: How to Get Yourself, Your Team and Your Organisation Further Than You Ever Thought Possible by Anthony Gell

Tuesday Sep 01, 2020
#5 You’re Always a Prototype of Yourself (ii) - Gary Cox
Tuesday Sep 01, 2020
Tuesday Sep 01, 2020
“But what I think we've got to remember is. You’re never the finished model of anything, you know, you, you're always the sort of prototype of yourself.” “Well, people used to say that you're only good as your last job, but that sounds so negative like that. You know, you're always a prototype of yourself”. Gary Cox.
In Part II Gary and I continue our discussion on feedback and talk about managing stress and excitement. We talk about continuous learning and how the world is your oyster with a finance qualification. Gary explains his approach to work-life balance and tells us what he is up to now.
Connect with Gary:LinkedIn @ Gary Cox
His Website

Life Beyond the Numbers
Are you curious about having a more fulfilling work-life? Do you believe in putting people first and in purpose; not just profit at any cost?
If so, this podcast is for you.
We place a lens on the human side of work-life. We look at life beyond the numbers and at the uniqueness of people. All guests believe in putting people first and inspiring you to let your uniqueness shine through in your work-life.
80% of people report feeling disengaged at work. Are you included in this 80% or are you part of the 20% who is engaged in the workplace?
Host Susan Ní Chríodáin founded Beyond the Numbers to work with teams and individuals in organisations who know that putting people first generates the greatest return. Her experience and business acumen stem from a wide variety of commercial and non-profit roles. For over 20 years she led and managed multi-disciplinary and multi-cultural teams in Europe, Africa, Asia, in-person and remotely.