Life Beyond The Numbers
Are you curious about having a more fulfilling work-life? Do you believe in putting people first and in purpose; not profit at any cost? If so, this podcast is for you. We place a lens on the human side of work-life.
Episodes

Saturday Nov 11, 2023
#150 Celebrations - Susan Ni Chriodain
Saturday Nov 11, 2023
Saturday Nov 11, 2023
I'm celebrating!
Submitting Leading Beyond the Numbers: How Accounting for Emotions Tips the Balance at Work to the publisher.
and
A milestone birthday.
Connect with me:
On LinkedIn
Through my website

Saturday Oct 28, 2023
#149 A Fair Person - James Perry
Saturday Oct 28, 2023
Saturday Oct 28, 2023
"If you can demonstrate to someone that you have their back and you're fair, you're a fair person. I think that's all you need to ask for, isn't it?" James Perry
James Perry talks about his experiences with different bosses, emphasising the significance of fairness and support in the workplace. We talk about the importance of creating a relatable and empathetic work environment to engage employees and retain staff. James also reflects on his journey of self-awareness and the impact it had on his career. We touch on topics such as defining success, finding balance, looking honestly at ourselves, building rapport and the power of human connection.
James Perry holds a Certificate in Executive Coaching from Cambridge University. He runs a unique business coaching Accounting Students on mindset, motivation, study & exam techniques. He is one of Northern Ireland’s Top 40 Under 40 and a TEDx Speaker. He is a Fellow Chartered Accountant, an Associate Lecturer at the University of Ulster, a former Associate Director in a global Accounting firm and Financial Controller of a multi-million pound group.
Connect with James
On LinkedIn
On YouTube
Resources Mentioned
TEDx: Does Passion Need a Purpose?
"The Possibility Exists" by Eoin Scolard
"The Highly Sensitive Man" by Tom Falkenstein

Thursday Oct 19, 2023
#148 Conversations - David Lee & Me (Republished**)
Thursday Oct 19, 2023
Thursday Oct 19, 2023
**Please note that the episode that went out on Oct 14th was a repeat of episode 102. This was my mistake - apologies. This is now the correct version of episode 148
"Difficult conversations by definition are difficult, but the relationship, just like in anything in life between skill level and how much courage it takes, the more skill, the less courage you have to summons." David Lee
In this episode David Lee is asking the questions - well it is more of a riff about constructive conversations, creative, courageous conversations, psychological safety, etc. We both share stories and insights on addressing difficult topics, separating the behaviour from the person, creating cues of safety and a psychologically safe environment for open and honest communication. We also explore strategies for emotional self-regulation, the significance of silence and the impact of body language and non-verbal cues.
David Lee is a coach, consultant, workshop facilitator, keynote speaker, and author, who loves creating a win/win/win relationship between people and the organizations they work for. He helps leaders and leadership teams learn how to become "people whisperers", and by doing so, increase their ability to make their organization THE choice for "A List Talent" and inspire the best in their people.
Connect with David
On LinkedIn
Through his website Human Nature at Work
Resources Mentioned
David Whyte
Don't Bite the Hook: Finding Freedom from Anger, Resentment, and Other Destructive Emotions by Pema Chodron
Polyvagal theory and Dr Stephen Porges
Fierce Intimacy by Terry Real
Margaret Heffernan
Lisa Feldman Barrett
Approaching Difficult Conversations, the Polyvagal Way | Psychology Today by David Lee
Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking" by Susan Cain
Permission to Feel by Professor Mark Brackett and the "How We Feel" App

Saturday Sep 30, 2023
#147 This is my Camino
Saturday Sep 30, 2023
Saturday Sep 30, 2023
In 2018 I walked from Lisbon to Santiago de Compostela, or The Camino. I reached Santiago on Sept 30th and on the 5th anniversary of that milestone I've put together an episode to share some of the stories, thoughts, lessons learned and emotions from that four week journey:
Week 1: Survival
Week 2: Struggle
Week 3: Stride
Week 4: Satisfaction

Saturday Sep 23, 2023
#146 Highlights from the first 21
Saturday Sep 23, 2023
Saturday Sep 23, 2023
A selection of insights from guests who featured in earlier episodes including
Episode 1 with Sue Rosen
Episode 4-5 with Gary Cox
Episode 6 with Helen Joy
Episode 9 with Jerry Harris
Episode 13 with Mags de Valois
Episode 14 with John Hayns
Episode 15 with Marcus Thompson
Episode 17 with Kim Bowden
Episode 20 with Aoife O'Brien
Episode 21 with Mark Samowitz

Saturday Sep 16, 2023
#145 Facilitate People - John Fairhurst
Saturday Sep 16, 2023
Saturday Sep 16, 2023
"Leadership [....] it's a lot about trying to create environments where people could thrive and facilitate people being successful and therefore the team, the agenda and the organisation being successful." John Fairhurst
John Fairhurst and I discuss his leadership style and philosophy. He emphasises the importance of facilitating and enabling people to be successful. He reflects on the changing nature of the private sector and development sector. And we talk about the crucial need for voices from different sectors, including the private sector, in advocating for change and addressing global challenges. We touch on the importance of not being solely reliant on key individuals in driving change. And we discuss the importance of well-being in the workplace and the need for a broader assessment of what it means to have a thriving workforce.
John Fairhurst is the head of Private Sector Engagement at the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria. John has worked in both the private and not-for-profit sectors. Prior to joining the Global Fund John was Executive Director at UBS Optimus Foundation and COO at the Global Alliance for Improved Nutrition (GAIN). He was involved in the establishment and management of the portfolio of programmes of one of the largest international development private foundations, the Children's Investment Fund (CIFF). He oversaw development and humanitarian programs for Oxfam in various geographies including the Democratic Republic of Congo, Eritrea, and Afghanistan.
Connect with John
On LinkedIn
Resources Mentioned
The Global Fund
Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation

Saturday Sep 09, 2023
#144 Move Internationally - Kery (Boucher) Hamman
Saturday Sep 09, 2023
Saturday Sep 09, 2023
"We're not as young as some people who move internationally, which is one thing I think that I've learned a lesson from. And that's one of the harder things here, is that you've left almost your network and everything you've built up in your 25 years experience. You've almost gotta park that to one side and say, well, that was that country - now I have to start again." Kery Boucher
Kery Boucher moved from South Africa to Ireland having never even visited Ireland previously. We talk about the cultural differences you encounter when you move internationally. And what it is like to adapt to a new work environment as well as build a new network. When it comes to networking Kery talks about the importance of connecting on a human level. Kery encourages everyone to take risks and embrace new opportunities. She explains the challenges of living in Johannesburg, including social inequality, lack of basic services, and high crime rates. She also highlights the beauty and potential of the city.
Kery Boucher is an experienced CA(SA) with a demonstrated history of working in multiple industries including financial services, asset based finance and pharmaceutical. She is a passionate facilitator who works in adult education equipping candidates with improved financial and sustainability tools and skills.
Connect with Kery
On LinkedIn

Saturday Sep 02, 2023
#143 Executive Presence - Sue Rosen
Saturday Sep 02, 2023
Saturday Sep 02, 2023
"I think all of leadership and all of executive presence starts from within. It starts with a need. You need to actually take time for reflection. I always describe it to people as, you've got to slow down to go faster. You've got to stop and reflect on what's important to you. What are your values? How do you want to show up as a leader?" Sue Rosen
Sue Rosen and I discuss the topic of executive presence. Sue defines executive presence as inspiring confidence in one's capabilities and potential, especially in high-pressure situations. They discuss the importance of authenticity, genuine connection, and consistency in building trust and confidence. Sue introduces her model for developing executive presence, focusing on confidence, humility, and intentionality. We cover the need for personal growth and development, challenging oneself, seeking feedback, and adapting to different situations. And we touch on the challenges individuals face in maintaining executive presence and the importance of using our voice in support of challenging inequities to bring about change.
Sue Rosen is passionate about empowering professionals to become courageous and compassionate leaders, leading purpose-driven organisations. She loves working with people as they develop their capacity for authentic leadership, whilst finding freedom and fulfilment in their own lives. Sue was drawn to coaching after years of working in roles which didn't energise or excite her. Having over 25 years in senior finance roles Sue has real world experience that counts, as it has inevitably shaped the coach she has become.
Connect with Sue
On LinkedIn
Through her website
Resources Mentioned
Stepping into the Unknown, Episode 1 of Life Beyond the Numbers with Sue Rosen

Saturday Aug 26, 2023
#142 Minefields
Saturday Aug 26, 2023
Saturday Aug 26, 2023
Until the end of August '23 there will be a slightly different format to Life Beyond the Numbers episodes.
As I'm focusing on a specific writing project I needed to free up space and time. So, instead of the regular format I am sharing a brief update on the week - the progress, struggles and insights as well as a short story, or speech, that I wrote during my time at Toastmasters - these will focus on different aspects of work-life.
These episodes will be on average about 15-20 minutes duration. It is up to you whether you come along on this brief detour or not. And I hope to be back next week with the regular format.

Saturday Aug 19, 2023
#141 Laughter
Saturday Aug 19, 2023
Saturday Aug 19, 2023
Until the end of August '23 there will be a slightly different format to Life Beyond the Numbers episodes.
As I'm focusing on a specific writing project I needed to free up space and time. So, instead of the regular format I am sharing a brief update on the week - the progress, struggles and insights as well as a short story, or speech, that I wrote during my time at Toastmasters - these will focus on different aspects of work-life.
These episodes will be on average about 15-20 minutes duration. It is up to you whether you come along on this brief detour or not. And I hope to be back in September with the regular format.
Resources Mentioned
Episode 109 Collective Joy with Pete Bearder
Laughology by Stephanie Davies

Life Beyond the Numbers
Are you curious about having a more fulfilling work-life? Do you believe in putting people first and in purpose; not just profit at any cost?
If so, this podcast is for you.
We place a lens on the human side of work-life. We look at life beyond the numbers and at the uniqueness of people. All guests believe in putting people first and inspiring you to let your uniqueness shine through in your work-life.
80% of people report feeling disengaged at work. Are you included in this 80% or are you part of the 20% who is engaged in the workplace?
Host Susan Ní Chríodáin founded Beyond the Numbers to work with teams and individuals in organisations who know that putting people first generates the greatest return. Her experience and business acumen stem from a wide variety of commercial and non-profit roles. For over 20 years she led and managed multi-disciplinary and multi-cultural teams in Europe, Africa, Asia, in-person and remotely.